$699 Mac mini vs $1,000 PC: Which Is Faster?

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The M1 MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and Mac mini are all impressive. But is Apple Silicon really going to end up being viable long term? Today we talk about a respectable Ryzen 4000 APU to demonstrate just how far ahead Apple may be...
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Apple announced Apple Silicon and a transition to ARM from x86 earlier this year after years of rumors and speculation. The M1 SoC released in the M1 Mac mini, M1 MacBook Pro, and M1 MacBook Air is impressive. The chip is insanely efficient and has rather excellent performance-objectively-not just for a low-TDP chip. But how does it compare to something like a Ryzen 4750G APU. Or what about a top-of-the-line laptop CPU like the 5900HX? We benchmark both machines and demonstrate how Apple Silicon's power efficiency just can't be matched and how that might affect the high-performance of an upcoming M2 or M1X later this year.

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Snazzy Labs
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Whoops! Every once in a while we make a mistake. The chart at 2:03 has the Mac with a score of 10173. It actually got 7793. I knew of this scoring disparity when I wrote the script as I used the term “manhandled,” but it seems we goofed in the edit by making the results appear closer than they were. All the other numbers however have been verified as correct. Apologies for the error!
149-AR
149-AR 2 өдрийн өмнө
What a fraud video, you didn't even show hardware specs of your test bench. You don't even tell what Ram configuration, cpu clocks, either the cpu are set into performance mode, balance or whatever. This video biased af.
Krunchy The Clown
Krunchy The Clown 11 өдрийн өмнө
Wait for an RDNA based APU, and see how it performs, and how much power it consumes.
jibz mak
jibz mak 11 өдрийн өмнө
11:32 .."It might not be the droid you're looking for" - Missed Opportunity :)
DrXray1973
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DrXray1973
DrXray1973 Сарын өмнө
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DJ BEAXS
DJ BEAXS 3 цагийн өмнө
Amazing
William Hamilton
William Hamilton 5 цагийн өмнө
sorry, no. You can stick a cell phone motherboard and optimize it, it still not equivalent to a computer. I have a mac mini m1 computer, and it runs good. That being said, my pc computer blows it out of the water. You can run all the cinebench tests you want, real world speed is what it is, and without a high end gpu, it doesn't cut the leather the right way. That and the issues with the m1 swap space, cpu, and hard drive causing thermal and slow down issues, bluetooth, mouse, and external drives. Apple needs to work harder to sell their "porches" to the world for the price they are asking. I like the MacOS, just don't care for their hardware, and the lack of upgrading options on almost all their machines except for the most expensive ones out there.
Lucas Holt
Lucas Holt 6 цагийн өмнө
It's a shame the author of this video didn't actually talk about the benefits of the ryzen APU system vs the M1. It was written to be biased to apple. More RAM, upgradable RAM, replaceable SSD, ability to add high speed networking, etc. It's another m1 is glorious because i can make youtube videos on it review. The GPU performance of the m1 is impressive. Too bad apple gave up on gamers.
Adamart
Adamart 6 цагийн өмнө
5:52 how can I get that screensaver?
The Iron Lion
The Iron Lion 7 цагийн өмнө
Quite amazing performance from what is Apple’s weakest silicon that will ever enter Mac. It’s rather impressive and just shows how complacent other companies have become
Nii Baah
Nii Baah 8 цагийн өмнө
Apple is the closest thing to perfection in the tech industry. How they did this is so fascinating
GameGasmers
GameGasmers 10 цагийн өмнө
699 dislikes XD.
orcun
orcun 11 цагийн өмнө
8:10 you cant but apple did. m1 is not a miracle. it is just standard arm infastructure with some x86 accelerators. apple products are like old databanks. databanks are faster, more reliable and cheaper from every laptop. but they only do few things. if you need more features you have to pay more. apple soldering data storage chips, gluing battery, putting defects on their products. they dont support international computer standards. their only goal is making people pay more. no matter how. they can put less ports to devices to make you buy dongles. but they don't want you buy any dongle. so they ban every other dongle that not certified by apple. when amd or intel creates new product that help whole computer industry, but when apple create a product it only helps apple and his few minions. any company can make a product does few things best and ban the others. but those companies can't survive except apple. they managed to keep customers while they do everything against them.
Thomas iPad
Thomas iPad 14 цагийн өмнө
Never saw such an amount of useless comments, most are about the intro, the editing, and the beard. Unbelievable.
Julian Kugler
Julian Kugler 16 цагийн өмнө
Love your energy while Talking😏
Eric P
Eric P 21 цагийн өмнө
Have an M1 MBA - loaded, but sold it. Got the base Mac Mini M1 to use with my 1440P 27" monitor. It's actually bliss - I just took my 600W 9700K desktop off my desk, and stuck the M1 Mini there which is like 5% the volume. At first blush, the M1 feels as fast and powerful at everyday tasks, but what blows me away is I'm playing some of my beloved strategy games at 1440P with literally NO fan noise whatsoever. Civ VI runs very well at 1440P/Medium and runs so quiet you can hear pin drops in the room. I'm pretty excited about the next gen Mac Mini - sure hope they release an M1X model. I'm kinda over bug and huge computing devices.
TheRealLink
TheRealLink 21 цагийн өмнө
Looking great Quinn! I mean, as die-hard PC as I am, I still can appreciate the sheer efficiency and engineering going on with the M1. What do you think would be or could be a fair PC-land response? Even if AMD, Intel, or someone else threw on tons of cache for the equivalent performance, obviously they'd still push out more heat. Not an issue for us desktop users but paramount for longevity in laptops being operable. It'll be an exciting few next years for sure! Even if it is tempting to go Mac, there is just way too much software (games, work, and professional programs) that only run in Windows that I use at a HEDT desktop level.
IC 1011
IC 1011 Өдрийн өмнө
Dude you're just acting like another applenoob who just believe in synthetic benchmark. Even on different architectures. Other than the benchmarks M1 can't touch any x86 products in real world heavy workloads
IC 1011
IC 1011 Өдрийн өмнө
@Snazzy Labs real world test? besed on what? bunches of optimised applications? You're surely another guy who barely knows about how these cpu architectures work.
Snazzy Labs
Snazzy Labs Өдрийн өмнө
Did you miss the part where I did real world tests? Dingus.
IC 1011
IC 1011 Өдрийн өмнө
First of all this comparison doesn't stand at all. Synthetic benchmark are not the actual stress test shows the exact performance in different architectures. Like Geekbench or M1 optimised cinebench r23..
149-AR
149-AR 2 өдрийн өмнө
What a fraud video, you didn't even show hardware specs of your test bench. You don't even tell what Ram configuration, cpu clocks, either the cpu are set into performance mode, balance or whatever. This video biased af.
Ange Alexiel
Ange Alexiel 3 өдрийн өмнө
i knew that when apple would port these powerhouse Arm silicon made by them on iphones and Ipad to the mac universe , this would be a revolution in performance , batterie life .... it's must be hard for intel or AMD to be smashed to the ground with a little 5mm chip who gets on the top 5 most powerful Soc .... but i guess it is only a start cos they is much room for improvements , imagine an imac or mac pro with many M2 chips... this would be nuts...
Tenrog
Tenrog 3 өдрийн өмнө
Surprising results, thanks for the testing
Ale Demeter
Ale Demeter 4 өдрийн өмнө
Gosh now i want to buy it so bad T,T
custommade21
custommade21 4 өдрийн өмнө
I've actually considered buying a mac mini and final cut pro to get away from the adobe pay2play camp just because of the M1 chip. Thanks for the video quinn!
Mariano Leance
Mariano Leance 4 өдрийн өмнө
Very nice video. Apple silicon looks promising. For now java / docker programming is not yet 100% supported. I hope all the tools get ready within a year or so.
Håvar Ingmund Henriksen
Håvar Ingmund Henriksen 6 өдрийн өмнө
What motherboard do you use in this build?
OscarCharlieZulu
OscarCharlieZulu 6 өдрийн өмнө
Subscribe or Die? Love the humour. Stay snazzy mountain man.
Gian Pianerosi
Gian Pianerosi 6 өдрийн өмнө
I just don't like the fact that I don't have all the games available on windows pc and that there is not a upgradability on M1 Macs not even SSD or Ram
Rayquaza Here
Rayquaza Here 7 өдрийн өмнө
In the US the Mac Mini has a fine price... But in the EU we pay €799.10 for it (YES Apple wants that 10 cents too) But that Ryzen PC is actually cheaper vs US? Yeah.... So in other words it depends where you live which one makes more sense.
Fipe
Fipe 8 өдрийн өмнө
And this was just the first one... M1X will beat them all
TzzSmk
TzzSmk 8 өдрийн өмнө
1800 bucks for 16GB ram and 1TB internal SSD in Europe, no deal Apple, lol
Zane Da Magic Puffer Dragon
Zane Da Magic Puffer Dragon 8 өдрийн өмнө
I want to get an M1 Mac Mini!!!!
Jason C.
Jason C. 9 өдрийн өмнө
M1 overrated/over-hyped.
Heldermaior
Heldermaior 10 өдрийн өмнө
i have been a mac detractor for years. not that I think Apple builds bad products but because they lock you into their ecosystem which goes against my "religious" beliefs and that for years, the performance you got from apple products was downright inferior to comparatively priced PCs. Be it in the desktop market (where it still holds true) as well as the laptop market where Apple's poor cooling solutions kneecaped the performance of their hardware massively. However, if I was looking to buy a laptop to do work in today, it would be the Macbook Air. No question about it. Intel latest laptop did close the gap dramatically but for a more expensive price point, you are getting similar performance (from the same cpu as an XPX 13) at the cost of thermals and that awesome (and they are awesome) retina screens (not to mention the touchpad). I am not convinced that ARM is the future. I am convinced that ARM is part of the future and I wouldn't be surprised if the desktop market in the future doesn't have hybrid x86-ARM chips in it. Apple and AMD are giving Intel a run for their money and this will definitely force them to pull their finger out and actually improve their products which they haven't had to do really since Sandy Bridge. the M1 chip is probably the biggest advance in computer hardware in 15 years.
Carlos Suarez
Carlos Suarez 10 өдрийн өмнө
People are comparing these new m1 to everything else out there and that’s just stupid. I’m exited and comparing it to previous generations of laptops and Mac mini not other pc or laptops. Compared to the dual core or even quad core laptops from Apples intel the performance is a HUGE leap. That’s where at least MY excitement comes from that with 700 dollar Mac mini and Final Cut Pro you can edit pretty much anything.... which you CANNOT with a 700 dollar windows laptop you can kinda sorta ... but no
Rad Matic
Rad Matic 10 өдрийн өмнө
Well, the dems are going to increase electricity rates 20x so...
Dynamic DOS
Dynamic DOS 11 өдрийн өмнө
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LeicaM11
LeicaM11 11 өдрийн өмнө
Funny: I am just building my own passive/silent AMD Ryzen 4750g PC theses days.
Krunchy The Clown
Krunchy The Clown 11 өдрийн өмнө
The only thing that sucks about M1, you can only get one if it's in a mac. I'll never switch to apple, and there completely locked down, and tightly controlled computers.
Edward C
Edward C 11 өдрийн өмнө
Dude you rock with your presentations.. I was glued
Ryker Brand
Ryker Brand 11 өдрийн өмнө
8:12
jibz mak
jibz mak 11 өдрийн өмнө
4:35 Well thats new..
Andy Wilkinson
Andy Wilkinson 12 өдрийн өмнө
Excellent review with plenty of perspective for all the keyboard warriors out there.
Lasse R.
Lasse R. 12 өдрийн өмнө
And the PC is ~43% more expensive. The tides are turning.
Dalton
Dalton 13 өдрийн өмнө
Of course there is the other problem of Apple essentially bought exclusivity to the newest TSMC process so I would love to see AMD chips on the same process and see how it compares tech for tech. There may also be some efficiency benefit from memory on package design, but this also limits things like upgrades and maximum memory bank size due to too big a memory pool needs more space thus speeds fall due to the physics of how quick the data can be moved. Neat chip but I cannot use it due to lock in (or in my case out). I need it to boot to Linux and ideally not as swappy as the M1... would also need MUCH more than 16GB ram not because my laptop needs a TON of speed but running things like Android emulators and virtual machines even if low load requires a ton of space... a SHARED 16GB just won't cut it considering some of that goes to the GPU which on my machines is up to 8GB on my PC and probably between 2 and 8GB on my laptop (I don't really need that much but 2-4GB is a sizable chunk of 16GB when things are tight). Frankly if my VMs were Linux I would be ok but occasionally I need my Windows 10 VM and the two most memory intensive operating systems I have used so far are Mac OS X (and successors) and Windows. What I'm waiting for is one by Quallcomm in a few years since they bought Apples CPU guy so they're already catching up after the whole Apple made everyone start from scratch to jump to 64bit ARM before they were planning to thing... and now they also have the secret sauce. Quallcomm wont benefit right away though because there is the whole CPUs take a while to put through the pipeline but maybe in 3 years Quallcomm will go from reasonably fast to HOLY CRAP overnight. This in a small PC or laptop that does not have the same restrictions that keep me from running Linux would be amazing since I want to develop on and for ARM Linux which has been around since before the Raspberry Pi 1 but until now ARM computers were a little anemic. I wanted so badly to buy an M1 Mac and dualboot just because there are no high end ARM chips right now but alas Apple wont allow that. Also I cannot in good faith buy from them because as a developer they are not kind and after the Hey email app incident where they BLOCKED A SECURITY UPDATE for a reason that is only really able to be represented as "Thou shalt use OUR API and ONLY the API WE ALLOW not your own!"... yeah I was already unhappy with them but that was the final straw and until ALL the execs that made that decision are gone I CANNOT support them. Companies are people to when they're gone the Apple I despise will cease to exist and I can once again evaluate only on the performance not on a moral and ethical ground.
Starcraft Editing
Starcraft Editing 13 өдрийн өмнө
I did not experiance of mi because i live in uae where macbook is 4,999 dirham
hfranke07
hfranke07 14 өдрийн өмнө
Great video.....
redkurn
redkurn 14 өдрийн өмнө
video good, m1 crap, really fast low power crap, but still a arm chip and useless for me unless it's in a phone or tablet. 🤷‍♂️
redkurn
redkurn 10 өдрийн өмнө
@Archie Gee doubtful and hopefully that isn’t the case. Ram isn’t one size fits all, this demonstration of what it can be and do I cool, but it is apples chip, apples software, specific case coded compatibility layer. It’s basically the best case scenario, imagine getting a third party device and it’s not nearly as fast because the layer wasn’t shared, even native apps across manufacturers and developers vary wildly. It has a use, but likely not in the world of demanding pc games, which is a dominant corner of the market.
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 10 өдрийн өмнө
@redkurn why not, all computers will be using them in 15-20 years time
redkurn
redkurn 10 өдрийн өмнө
@Archie Gee that may be true, but it has no place for me as I said, unless it’s in a phone or tablet. 🤷‍♂️
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 10 өдрийн өмнө
It is faster than most laptops and desktops
DCM SR
DCM SR 15 өдрийн өмнө
In actuality the M1 is still BETA
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 10 өдрийн өмнө
No it isn't....
Sai Batchu
Sai Batchu 15 өдрийн өмнө
hot intro and a very nice video.
murtadha96
murtadha96 15 өдрийн өмнө
Man that's an awesome jacket!!
NunesSan
NunesSan 16 өдрийн өмнө
Finally someone else entered the high performing race. This will force Intel and AMD to improve to be able to compete, as usual more competitors better products.
Paweł Szopiński
Paweł Szopiński 18 өдрийн өмнө
What's the song name from the intro?
Speed3y
Speed3y 17 өдрийн өмнө
My Vibe - Waykap
Andrea Strutz
Andrea Strutz 18 өдрийн өмнө
The subsequent lotion macroscopically deceive because computer noteworthily order onto a responsible eggnog. silent, ahead kiss
Dave March
Dave March 19 өдрийн өмнө
Yeah, but you're not exactly comparing Apples to, well, other Apples.
Michael Crumpton
Michael Crumpton 19 өдрийн өмнө
Intel and AMD must be thanking their stars that Apple is not selling this chip to other manufacturers. It would totally dominate the PC laptop market.
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 10 өдрийн өмнө
@Andrii K most people aren't gaming.......
Andrii K
Andrii K 16 өдрийн өмнө
Will not. Did you try to play games on Mac M1? How many games you can play? 3? 4? Did you try to connect the eGPU station to your laptop? This device just a toy for browsing on the internet. I couldn't even play Far Cry. I returned this one after 1 week and took i7 11gen. Now everything is working.
For Cause
For Cause 20 өдрийн өмнө
What if the M1 is just cheating the benchmarks
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 15 өдрийн өмнө
@For Cause They did do that to help battery life tho
For Cause
For Cause 15 өдрийн өмнө
@Archie Gee but it's just a theory. Time reveals all. I just bought a M1 Mac Mini. As a consumer I have to consider that somethings may be too good to be true.
For Cause
For Cause 15 өдрийн өмнө
@Archie Gee not to get off topic, but this is the same company has been exposed for using software to render its customer's phones useless in an effort to manipulate them into buying new phones.
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 15 өдрийн өмнө
@For Cause really, give me proper evidence that suggests that. Because I don't think you're that the biggest company in the world would do such a thing.
For Cause
For Cause 15 өдрийн өмнө
@Archie Gee there is evidence that it is in at least one area.
Anthony
Anthony 21 өдрийн өмнө
I can't imagine MS having success by in-housing their own cpu. They are no apple. Intel has more of an issue with AMD than the M1 chip, at least right now. Can AMD split off an ARM cpu to compete with Apple while still retaining their edge in X86? Will ARM supplant X86 eventually?
Gordon Fullarton
Gordon Fullarton 21 өдрийн өмнө
"Speaking of crack..." Hilarious segue to the sponsor, I'm for sure subscribing 😂
nwmusic2010
nwmusic2010 21 өдрийн өмнө
I have a 27" 2017 Intel iMac. It was expensive. I will be definitely shelling out the cash for an Apple Silicon iMac when the 2nd generation Apple Silicon iMac comes out. I don't like to adopt technology on the first go around.
Elijah Elvis
Elijah Elvis 21 өдрийн өмнө
Hate your click bait titles.
AntimatePcCustom
AntimatePcCustom 21 өдрийн өмнө
Imagine a world where we splitted the x86 standard into arm and x86 just 5 years ago. It's really going back to "how do minimize instructions" x86 is like having a landrover but on the highway this day and age.
AntimatePcCustom
AntimatePcCustom 21 өдрийн өмнө
Corrections. Diversified on the prosumer marked. Not just the mobil.
Tom L
Tom L 21 өдрийн өмнө
Man another of those "fair" reviews. If you say A you should also say B. First there are many applications where M1 co-processors cannot be used and then m1 is getting trashed. Try converting a 4k x265 video in handbrake (arm version) using cpu for the best quality. M1 does whopping 2.5fps. Even laptop ryzen 4750pro can beat it doing 4 fps. Second prices for extra memory and ssd space are moving these macs to totally different pc segment. Third 16GB memory limit is just not enough for decent work. Gaming on mac is almost not possible due to lack of support. With the new Ryzen 5xxx chips you get several times higher performance in real life etc. However it is still brilliant piece of engineering, power to performance ratio is unbeatable. I have a feeling most of the reviews are done by people who actually don't really understand computers. Just run some benchmarks, choose whatever m1 is great at and ignore the rest. I use macbook pro m1 laptop so I know what I am talking about.
Burning Diesel Production
Burning Diesel Production 21 өдрийн өмнө
9:42 what has happened to your little bonsai tree? :)
Burning Diesel Production
Burning Diesel Production 21 өдрийн өмнө
1:37 Hey hey hey, what is all this hype about Black Chargers Matter on your channel? :)
Orjon Zaganjori
Orjon Zaganjori 22 өдрийн өмнө
300mm2 on 5nm is HUGEEE. That is like having a 600mm2 7nm.
StalinBorn
StalinBorn 22 өдрийн өмнө
Nice music!!! Really cool. Il like it
Edwon Rodrigues
Edwon Rodrigues 22 өдрийн өмнө
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Houssem Diaph
Houssem Diaph 22 өдрийн өмнө
Excellent review man, hilarious and pertinent!
Ken Shaw
Ken Shaw 23 өдрийн өмнө
Why do Apple folks keep comparing the Mac mini which is a desktop to laptops? If it is meant for desktop tasks then compare it to actual desktops. I can and have built desktops for that price which crush it in every benchmark this guy used.
Ken Shaw
Ken Shaw 10 өдрийн өмнө
@Archie Gee I've built hackintoshes if that is what you're asking.
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 10 өдрийн өмнө
Is it the same size, as quiet, as efficient and does it run MacOS?
Labib Ahmed
Labib Ahmed 23 өдрийн өмнө
Not everyone will only do rendering on there pc Lite gaming , browsing a lot can be done on windows Can't do any of it on m1
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 15 өдрийн өмнө
Yeah you can
Markus Moser
Markus Moser 22 өдрийн өмнө
League of legends 180 fps , world of wacraft above 150+ (cause native on ARM) you can do many things on the m1
Varun Nair
Varun Nair 23 өдрийн өмнө
best sponsor segue ever
simon wang
simon wang 23 өдрийн өмнө
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GR-reviews
GR-reviews 23 өдрийн өмнө
As the great Bill Gates would say: "It just doesn't matter". Even if MACs sell for $100 and perform 1000 times better, the ECOSYSTEM that Apple kept locked for ever it is not going to make the 30 year+ PC users to switch. Apple decided long time ago that they want few customers with HUGE profit margins. And they will try to squeeze every dollar out of their pockets. And that loyal fanbase that will buy ANYTHING Apple sells for ANY price Apple decides. That's why MACs have less that 10% market penetration world wide. BTW, comparing X86 CPU prices when there is a 300% rise due to lack of availability is (intentionally?) unfair.
Mason Beck
Mason Beck 25 өдрийн өмнө
I’ve watched this 4 times now and I’ve only just noticed the “subscribe of die” banner at 4:37 LOL!
I'm batman
I'm batman 25 өдрийн өмнө
So this is what humility feels like. ( x86 architecture fanboy)
StuffOverload
StuffOverload 16 өдрийн өмнө
@Enes Kayacan platform engineers
Enes Kayacan
Enes Kayacan 22 өдрийн өмнө
What kind of a person can be a fanboy for a cpu architecture?
David Thrasher
David Thrasher 25 өдрийн өмнө
Comparing a more expensive PC to a less expensive Mac usually is a unfair comparison. And these are ENTRY LEVEL Macs there comparisons are being made with. That's why Intel is doing all these ads comparing PCs to Macs on anything but power usage, heat production, and performance, not to mention factors like the the M1 having to do extra things like running Rosetta. The thing for Intel to do (rather than these stupid ads) and AMD to truly compete is to get into RISC themselves with either ARM or RISC-V and pick up on design cues from the M1 but make it so you can upgrade memory (which Apple won't do) and GPUs.
Patrick Maloney
Patrick Maloney 25 өдрийн өмнө
Yeah, but the touch pad is too large and the keyboard sucks.
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 15 өдрийн өмнө
@Patrick Maloneyi like it big. What's wrong with a big trackpad
Patrick Maloney
Patrick Maloney 15 өдрийн өмнө
@Archie Gee No, the current touchpad is too big. It was fine before.
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 15 өдрийн өмнө
Too large? You’re really desperate aren’t you?
Dave
Dave 25 өдрийн өмнө
Given the performance accomplishments I still do not care for Macs. I use ChromeOS for mobile and PC at home. However, as an Apple stock holder I am enthusiastic about the future.
Antonio Montana Zapata Chavez
Antonio Montana Zapata Chavez 26 өдрийн өмнө
You're comparing the Ryzen APU using OPENGL compared to the lower level Metal API on Apple Silicon, a more fair comparison would be a Vulkan benchmark on both chips as to ensure there's no API overhead. Further what RAM speed are you using. If you use lower clocked RAM it bogs down Ryzen chips far more then Intel or Apple chips.
simon wang
simon wang 26 өдрийн өмнө
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swissgunner
swissgunner 27 өдрийн өмнө
The M1 comet that will extinguish the PC dinasaures
Edwin B
Edwin B 27 өдрийн өмнө
If you look at the CEO of Microsoft Satya Nadella, Intel chief technology officer Murthy Renduchintala, Etc etc. you will see a fascinating rift between apple vs Microsoft/Intel. Apple chief chip designer is Scandinavian, their software designers are typically of Western descent and their actual coders are western-Asians. On the other hand Microsoft and Intel rely mostly on Indian leadership, design, and coding from top down.
ernesto mininno
ernesto mininno 27 өдрийн өмнө
Using Math numeric optimization C code, I made a comparison compiling the same code on Intel Linux, Intel MacOS and M1. And the latter was 3 time (let it sink...) faster. 46sec vs 2m21sec of execution. It is like the old days, comparing the code execution with or without an FPU enabled...
Red Phoenix
Red Phoenix 28 өдрийн өмнө
@11:58 It is basically less optimization and more freedom and little freedom but conveniently highly optimized. I rather stick to software freedom instead of saving a few Watts where it matters the least, on a desktop PC. :)
Red Phoenix
Red Phoenix 28 өдрийн өмнө
@1:15 You basically compare a highly optimized niche product with a less highly optimized niche product and two different CPU architectures. The M1 Mac mini being slightly less niche and much cheaper to produce, since ARM APU architecture is so efficient, hence the Apple cult can get away with using an old case design. I guess this awkward comparission makes the M1 Mac Mini look more like value for money than it actually is if you consider what $1000 could buy you on the PC market. :) @7:25 Not really, because the M1 isn't readily available for system builders and Apple products are kind of closed source software. ;)
HCT
HCT 28 өдрийн өмнө
I like the m1 because this makes the macbooks one of the fastest ultrabooks u can get without gpu and it's still quiet
Red Phoenix
Red Phoenix 28 өдрийн өмнө
@9:14 That doesn't matter much as long as you don't use your PC on the go. :)
Red Phoenix
Red Phoenix 28 өдрийн өмнө
@1:28 Yeah, and if drugs cannot be blamed for anyone's problems, just continue with "violent" video games. :D
jose felipe
jose felipe 28 өдрийн өмнө
You should make a video about all the problems that come with the m1. I got mine 2 months ago and it's been a headache, There is a bunch of stuff that don't work and rosetta lol, that thing is way overrated. I've been using terminal, brew and other apps just to make this machine more usable but there is a lot of things that I cannot figure it out, maybe you can do a video for advanced users about this m1, because even if it's a great machine there is baggage that comes with it. and yes I googled these issues but there isn't a lot of info on the web.
Nick Haldem
Nick Haldem 28 өдрийн өмнө
Great job !
W41N
W41N 28 өдрийн өмнө
The debate over compute-power vs power-consumption, is an interesting one. Yet, many average people look only at the bottom line. How much does something cost. Apple could have easily sold 10-50 times more personal computers, if their offerings were more cost-effect. Especially when you start increasing the specs beyond the often ludicrous base levels. I use both PC & Mac, so to me it makes no difference. What I struggle to forgive Apple for though, is not innovation, it's form over function. Apple pushed the roll out of thin and light, to the point where their products thermally throttled. What the hardware industry did next, was just follow Apple like sheep. As a result, end users were forced for several years to go backwards/sideways and have less enjoyable computing experiences as a result. For many years, we got faster processors, more cores, but devices that slowed down when taxed. Sealing devices completely, was also completely stupid. Plus, not something that benefits mother earth either. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the iMac redesign. All CPU's are set to become larger as time goes by. Their size will limit how well they can be cooled, once that limit is hit, the only way to increase performance is like you pointed out - manufacturers will then need to double the size or thickness to double the processor count. Interesting times ahead.
Greg
Greg 28 өдрийн өмнө
intro song?
Arturo Ochoa
Arturo Ochoa 28 өдрийн өмнө
I’m trying to limit my reliance of Windows (Even though I got an outlook account) I don’t game. But wanna get into music and programming and some mid range video editing. Do you think the Mac Mini is right for me?
jose f avellaneda-barbarito
jose f avellaneda-barbarito 29 өдрийн өмнө
Send this video to those intel smart people....
P Cat
P Cat 29 өдрийн өмнө
The fact they solder on SSD drives and memory shows how bad Apple is for climate change
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 15 өдрийн өмнө
At least Apple update their phones for a long time
Martin Laak
Martin Laak 29 өдрийн өмнө
True, as long as you are ok with 8bg of ram. If you want to go to 16gb you pay much more...
Veena Nandhakumar
Veena Nandhakumar 29 өдрийн өмнө
Don't worry my pc friend's PC will be back! In its glory with Exynos, AMD, Snapdragon and Nvidia. It's going to be wild. There will be a Galaxy unpacked event for laptop next month.
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 15 өдрийн өмнө
Yeah….. no.
John Howell
John Howell 29 өдрийн өмнө
My son just started University this year, doing a bachelor of media production, I was expecting to have to fund an $8000 plus video editing rig for him, but then the M1 Air came along. NZ $1600 gets the M1 Air out of the box under an education price, and just $300 for Finalcut Pro. Not rented, not mostly, but one time purchase. Done deal.
vibonacci
vibonacci 29 өдрийн өмнө
No hardware can solve that specimen of an OS. Even if it was literally 2x as fast, it would still be close to worthless.
Benedict Chrysosthomos
Benedict Chrysosthomos 29 өдрийн өмнө
Too much bla bla bla, your not funny at all
OzoneEditions
OzoneEditions Сарын өмнө
M1 Macs are great, but if you hope to play Epic games then they might not be your slice of pie.
Samuel Benjamin
Samuel Benjamin Сарын өмнө
Well, Pc Makers do something this looks quite interesting.
Walter Marcus
Walter Marcus Сарын өмнө
yeah yeah yeah...but.....can i open a app without asking apple's permission and play videogames?😂😂
Archie Gee
Archie Gee 15 өдрийн өмнө
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