I'm SHOCKED! $11,000 Mac Pro vs $11,000 PC!

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Is it possible that PC vs Mac goes deeper than just specs? Let's find out!
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Snazzy Labs finally answers the question: which is better dollar for dollar? Mac? Or PC? Seems pretty obvious when you compare the Maingear VYBE sporting a 64-core AMD Threadripper 3990X with NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti against our Mac Pro with a 12-core Intel Xeon W-3235 and Radeon Vega Pro II; however, all of this hubbub about Apple's optimization isn't just B.S. So, how does a Mac perform against a PC when doing tasks you'd find yourself doing on macOS like using Final Cut Pro? Let's find out!

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owo グーチmoshi
owo グーチmoshi 28 өдрийн өмнө
Sad to see abandonment of intel. Most of this will be outdated meaning apps. I been warning mac users for a year now the new m1 chips will kill support for intel when it comes to devs. I even sold my mac because of this. It's time to just move away.
WuShu101
WuShu101 2 сарын өмнө
f-mac, I d c what you say...rofl...j/k I just hate proprietary systems sure some of them are more secure than others, what about linux on the same pc hardware with Blender, or some other refined source of video editing? Nice video guys, or check the Parrallels virtual machine with Mac running windows 10 on a dedicated drive through Mac OSX(or whatever derivative of os is running on mac).--That would be an interesting Comparison. Anyways Nice job. Happy Holidays Dec 16 2020....:)
Curtis Jones
Curtis Jones 2 сарын өмнө
Chosing Adobe products was why it failed.
Phoenix the II
Phoenix the II 3 сарын өмнө
Thank you for not spitting out the usual VPN bullshit as a techie, but just show the real cases for a VPN! Rare sight.
Big Jojo
Big Jojo 3 сарын өмнө
Yeah, that's why you're here to begin with. Another fat, boring liar here to pimp your advertisers.
ph34r inovade
ph34r inovade Өдрийн өмнө
what's a video editing? i'm gamer PC MASTER RACE
Chad Johnson
Chad Johnson 2 өдрийн өмнө
I am probably not the first one to say this, but $11,000 will go soooo much further if you don't spend $3000 of it on non-essential shiny stuff... Before COVID happened, the core specs of that PC could have been built for less than $8k. And you could have had 2x2080ti's, or maybe even 2xTitans for the same or less with a more optimized system.
George Cassidy
George Cassidy 2 өдрийн өмнө
Could of ironed that top
GearsGamer
GearsGamer 2 өдрийн өмнө
Me acully tries to upgrade mac os 10.10 to os big sur on a vm, the vm *chrashes and wont boot*
marvtro
marvtro 5 өдрийн өмнө
...nah...CRAPple...
Ryan
Ryan 5 өдрийн өмнө
Mac can't even handle gaming. How trash. I have an apple laptop for school and that is it. The actual desktop is INSANELY overpriced for literally no reason. You can literally buy a prebuilt that is no joke 10X more powerful than Apple's top computer. It's disgusting how people just throw money at apple. I swear people are so stupid apple can literally sell them a $1 bill for $500 and they'd still buy it.
Jorge Cervantes
Jorge Cervantes 7 өдрийн өмнө
People are butt hurt about spending thousands on apple products.. these are the same people who haven’t figured out that you can trade in your gear for upgrades with reasonable compensation if you just continually upgrade? Idk 🤔 you tell me. I like fresh gear. Enjoy your multi thousand dollar set up that will not be shiny for ten years. But at least it will be tinker friendly if that gets your itch :). All in all, we all got a different itch that needs a scratch in a different spot. Depends what your doing with it, and if you are more comfortable with the software interface of one rather than the other.
gd515051
gd515051 8 өдрийн өмнө
Anti Apple fans, their endless insecurity drives them to make videos and commercials like this. Apple users, working.
gd515051
gd515051 8 өдрийн өмнө
The $11,000 PC comes with a $10,000 used Prius
Sphinxx God
Sphinxx God 8 өдрийн өмнө
Who will win? Vending machine Cheese grater
T i b o m b
T i b o m b 8 өдрийн өмнө
Thanks this helped me decide
Bebot Epuknot
Bebot Epuknot 9 өдрийн өмнө
Appple over priced product with dumb after sales service
Chris Almere
Chris Almere 9 өдрийн өмнө
The comparison is unfair! you compare a top of the line mac to a show beast-top of the line PC. Why didnt you calculate the nessisary PC components without the fancy RGB and timeconsuming hardline tubes (mac doesnt have that so why does pc need it?) I did a quick calculation and the PC would cost about 7.5K in euros so lets say 8k in dollars. (thats including a few extra's like a better gpu and faster RAM) So lets compare our 8.000 dollar honest top-of-the-line to our top-of-the-line 11.000 dollar Mac Pro now shal we? This is a no contest! the PC wins EVERYWHERE. Even where the mac times are faster, it still gets smoked, demolished and even sodomised by the PC's price to performance! With that said, if you take all mac components and build it yourself in a somewhat cheap case (if you can get your hands on all) with the macOS, the mac would stand a fighting chance since its a LOT cheaper all of a sudden. BUT!!! you fanboys pay for that smooth design, "quality" of build, the simplicity of it all. Mac looks good in a office or living room as a decoration piece. PC gets shit done! As a closing statement, if apple did hardline tubing and RGB, the price would easely hit 18.000 dollar and you know it.
TheSlacky775
TheSlacky775 10 өдрийн өмнө
IF Mac OS was available like Windows is, would anyone REALLY buy apple products, other than the people with more money than sense .
Cereal Pirate
Cereal Pirate 10 өдрийн өмнө
dude 10 years ago apple wasnt as bad and Jobs was still behind the helm. but NOW !! they are blatantly seeing how little they can give you for the most about of money ! before I got out of the tech world I took apart the "new" macbook ..... all battery and a ipad motherboard. how is advancing technology ? I am so glad I left apple when i did
Everything Videos2468
Everything Videos2468 10 өдрийн өмнө
Windows is a joke and I use windows everyday. I'm seriously making the switch to Mac. I plan to just get the Mac Mini
Xerneax Lmao
Xerneax Lmao 11 өдрийн өмнө
Him calling the 580 bad: Me with a 1.8 gb ddr4 internal graphics with my 5250u
yosecretsquirrel
yosecretsquirrel 12 өдрийн өмнө
There was a time, back in the late 90s early 2000s, when Mac was important to pro graphics users. When that passed, Mactards became a justified label.
Richard Cavicchi Jr
Richard Cavicchi Jr 15 өдрийн өмнө
You could easily build the same pc for WAY cheaper too especially if you skipped the custom cooling.
Raptoranjay
Raptoranjay 16 өдрийн өмнө
Apple's products is only good in the programs the specs is shittier than self built pc or gaming laptops (except for iphones those phones is a bit overpriced but for phone tech is better than other phones)
SALCON
SALCON 19 өдрийн өмнө
I hate how the score's actual value changes from one version of geekbench to another, though it is crazy to see that a hackingtosh MacPro I built in 2017 comes close to the 6k pro here. GB4 I scored 23k. I no longer have it, but would of loved to get a GB5 score on it. Honestly the Mac stuff is good, just the price isn't. It really boils down to what you need to do. And if you are using it to make money or content, well then price really becomes much less relevent and function/performance more so. For the most part, I always opt for PC and hacking, though I do have multiple Macs. Using them as tools to make money really does ease up the cost ;)
Jon Kroeker
Jon Kroeker 21 өдрийн өмнө
This guy really knows his shit!
Paul C
Paul C 22 өдрийн өмнө
Apple could stick a logo on a tin of beans and charge $1000 for it and fan boys would claim it's "special beans"
Yai Gamer
Yai Gamer 22 өдрийн өмнө
I am isheep
Hunter Jay
Hunter Jay 24 өдрийн өмнө
I wonder how the new M1 and future Apple Silicon will change things. Results have been outstanding so far, I’d love to see what they could do with the same idea in a pro desktop, or especially a consumer desktop.
Ryan Lennox-Bradley
Ryan Lennox-Bradley 24 өдрийн өмнө
I love how you're an Apple sheep that bashes Apple.
DustShelter Inc
DustShelter Inc 25 өдрийн өмнө
Pci express adaptered m2 ssd in 6000 backs Mac pro. They are Just laughing on u, obviouly.
U SA
U SA 26 өдрийн өмнө
NO APPLE IPAD WINDOWS TABLET WINS THE LOTTERY OR IF YOU RICH BUY A 999,999,999 PC
Niemand
Niemand 26 өдрийн өмнө
The thing is... you could switched the amd processor... to an Intel one... and then install hackintosh... and you have the power from PC ON IOS... and then how would they compare?
Ben Cheevers
Ben Cheevers 27 өдрийн өмнө
Started video addressing why the notion of Macs being massively overpriced cult status symbols was wrong and then after proving that they are massively slower than a ridiculously priced PC, I mean you could destroy that performance with a 3k PC, you finished with "well I like them better" and no shit, you've got a Mac channel, you're part of the cult, you've paid apple out the ass for machines that broke themselves and they refused to repair until they realized you have a platform. My point being, Apple is for status symbol hipster idiots. Thank you
Scotch_ OnRocks
Scotch_ OnRocks 28 өдрийн өмнө
I built my sister a pc for about $600 that would beat the $6,000 mac
Kivi
Kivi 29 өдрийн өмнө
My pc is around 650-700$ with an Ryzen 5 1600X and an Radeon RX 580 is stronger for 10 times less price. Also the mac has MACOS thats complete shit.
Valorant God
Valorant God 29 өдрийн өмнө
I didn’t know a cheese grater was so expensive.
Daniel Venable
Daniel Venable Сарын өмнө
This guys balsy! He put a Samsung card in an Apple Computer!!
Matthew Boyer
Matthew Boyer Сарын өмнө
8 PCIE slots *why*
TheReaper
TheReaper Сарын өмнө
Mac users are so butthurt in this comment section xD It clearly shows that they are twice stupid Butthurt and manipulated
CoolWhipp2975
CoolWhipp2975 Сарын өмнө
But buying the Mac you can only do the things the Mac does well. With the other pc you can game and do other stuff
Carl Smith
Carl Smith Сарын өмнө
Apple fans are just richer guys. Don't hate them because they can afford nice things
[Dark Mode Bruhify]
[Dark Mode Bruhify] 25 өдрийн өмнө
They're just overpriced
3point7
3point7 Сарын өмнө
More expensive, not nicer
azzam_
azzam_ Сарын өмнө
why not use hackintosh?
zdub911
zdub911 Сарын өмнө
"Nearly double" the score in Cinebench R20 is just a 55% increase. Closer to a 40% increase than a 100% increase. Only gripe I have. I love your channel.
Tod the Toad SMM2
Tod the Toad SMM2 Сарын өмнө
you could just get a macos virtual machine
Bunni Yubel
Bunni Yubel Сарын өмнө
Well, lets be real here, once you're done your work and you want to play games, which are you really gonna pick? heh.
Da Michl
Da Michl Сарын өмнө
5:51 HAHAHAHAHA WHAT IS THIS Wtf never mix different ram sizes
Da Michl
Da Michl Сарын өмнө
The comments at the beginning are so true 😂
Judda Budda
Judda Budda Сарын өмнө
Apple sucks.. get a PC... was a Mac User Editor for many many years... they are too busy making phones.. the OS alone is terrible. So sad ... Cause with Steve Apple was a great company. and Final Cut Pro X is god horrid.
Adam Lopes
Adam Lopes Сарын өмнө
This video looked like it had promise, but is still frustratingly light on detail. I use both the Adobe Suite and Final Cut Pro. If it weren't for Final Cut, I wouldn't need to own a Mac. I can dual-boot Windows and Linux no problems, and can boot OSX using KVM without assistance. Unfortunately, I've found that OSX really doesn't like Nvidia graphics cards. Since everything else seems to prefer Nvidia cards (some of which require CUDA), this is a problem. Any chance you have a source for some drivers for an NVIDIA Quadro RTX A6000 48GB that will pass through from Linux to OSX, or even run on OSX natively. I don't have the capital at the moment to purchase the equivalent AMD based video card, and given that my work involves a lot of computer vision and is coded for CUDA, it would be hard to justify the price.
Juan Pablo Rojas W.
Juan Pablo Rojas W. Сарын өмнө
Mac Pro is kind of an expensive cheese grater!
Kauri Channel
Kauri Channel Сарын өмнө
Pro means over Proiced
Kauri Channel
Kauri Channel Сарын өмнө
Most Apple fans wants apple products because apple products makes them look rich . Fuck this immatured apple fans
Neusbeer123
Neusbeer123 Сарын өмнө
People would just buy it cuz it's from 'Apple' And let's be real... A maingear looks way better
KokaEnte
KokaEnte Сарын өмнө
Imagine now with the 3090, it would destroy the shitty mac
Talkys Assis
Talkys Assis Сарын өмнө
Titan rtx >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NOOBIE PIE
NOOBIE PIE Сарын өмнө
No I core 5 no ryzen 9 only intel Pentium and the intel hd * _Black and white screen appears_
Syed Muhammad Zubair Naqvi
Syed Muhammad Zubair Naqvi Сарын өмнө
I had the same question
Dragoon TV
Dragoon TV Сарын өмнө
Mac is just Nintendo in disguise.
Thukten Jamyang
Thukten Jamyang Сарын өмнө
i dont care....
Evan Gambino
Evan Gambino Сарын өмнө
My thing has to be glitching it says I have 69,000 on geekbench
666Azmodan666
666Azmodan666 Сарын өмнө
11k mac is faster than 10k pc by 1.2%. 1.2% for $1000 :D and all this in one program where the PC keeps the speed in everyone ... and that's called the better mac result? It's a joke right?
Talkys Assis
Talkys Assis Сарын өмнө
The price difference is ~10%. You pay 10% more for only 1.2% better performance.
ΞGoDzBullΞ
ΞGoDzBullΞ Сарын өмнө
Aye this is my problem, I can’t still buy a fucking a simple Mac.
Hichem H21
Hichem H21 Сарын өмнө
pc nerds are annoying smh
3point7
3point7 Сарын өмнө
@trmg exactly
trmg
trmg Сарын өмнө
apple fans are annoying smh
consultoriajava
consultoriajava Сарын өмнө
A person who does not know about JIT optimization and is a main streamer talking about JVM performance...
sahil shaikh
sahil shaikh Сарын өмнө
Games on iOS : What is this place???
funny animal world
funny animal world Сарын өмнө
Just proved that apple sucks
funny animal world
funny animal world Сарын өмнө
Apple ram is special,its black😂
Timochat
Timochat Сарын өмнө
So for 11000$ Do I want : -a video editing pc -a video editing, gaming and streaming all in one pc ?
lit archives.
lit archives. Сарын өмнө
POV: You're watching this after the m1 came out and are wondering how their chips will be upgraded for the Mac Pro
misterbonzoid
misterbonzoid 19 өдрийн өмнө
M1 has integrated RAM, don't seem to be recommended for e.g. film-editing.
Pranav P
Pranav P Сарын өмнө
I use a 15 year old PC with Linux.
scottyGG
scottyGG Сарын өмнө
also the apple pc looks like a fucking electrical inverter for your house
scottyGG
scottyGG Сарын өмнө
apple is basically the razer of the tech world but without the increased product quality
SCHRANK
SCHRANK Сарын өмнө
i love that maingear got more advertisment than PIA
Joshua Trujillo
Joshua Trujillo Сарын өмнө
I used to have a Mac but then I became an engineer.
yamyam yamyam
yamyam yamyam Сарын өмнө
I dunno why i clicked this xD its already obvious that the pc would destroy the mac
Богдан Благовирний
Богдан Благовирний Сарын өмнө
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RUN CMD
RUN CMD Сарын өмнө
Look! This optimized Apple software barely runs better than a pc running the garbage pile of Adobe code.
Soumsoum. TV
Soumsoum. TV Сарын өмнө
WTF
Janblu Poggio
Janblu Poggio Сарын өмнө
Apple Silicon has entered the chat
Dark Rust
Dark Rust Сарын өмнө
Add the titan cards Apple Mac Pro would get destroyed
Fabio Patriarca
Fabio Patriarca Сарын өмнө
They are both pc, and nowadays they share more or less the same hardware, the big difference is on the OS. So an honest hw performance parallel would be done with the same OS but here the discussion is on the synergy between hw and sw. Regarding this, we got a general OS that is Windows, designed to do more or less anything (how about the Mac server side?) with a lot of pc design flexibility, and on the other side we got a specific OS designed and optimized by Mac to be installed on a specific hardware (basically a blackbox for a standard user) and usually suitable for the media production. For me between these two OS wins the third one: on the same Windows based PC a Linux distro can drastically improve the overall performance maintaining the same flexibility, having a stable machine with all the Mac OS benefits without busting the bank.
3point7
3point7 Сарын өмнө
You mean the os and the specs, Just build your own pc and instal Mac OS if you like the os
Creative Channel Name
Creative Channel Name Сарын өмнө
They're selling a 900 "stand" *STAND*
Connor
Connor Сарын өмнө
I’ll only buy MacBooks for a laptop but when it comes to a desktop I’d never touch an Apple. Build all the way.
Valentino De Santi
Valentino De Santi Сарын өмнө
Apple its shit!
Kevin Marti
Kevin Marti Сарын өмнө
Who the fuck compares two 11 000 $ machines? Sorry but apple with its no self repairs policy is a shitty company run by not verry innovative managers.
manditheos
manditheos Сарын өмнө
So you manipulated the comparison and at the end you said whatever guys.. How about upgrade options? How about customization? Of course mac are good machines. The point is if they worth the money. Compare a 6000 pc built with a 11000th mac pro. The price of the pc in this video is inflatted. you can take out a lot and save thousand of dollars and then the comparison value for money will be devastating in favor of the pc. A cheaper tower, a smaller ssd, no water cooling etc.
Blast Furnace
Blast Furnace Сарын өмнө
1:00 1300$ for the screen? is that with or without the stand for the screen? i've seen somewhere, apple sells a stand for almost 1000$, a simple milled and bent aluminium piece, production cost probably around 5 to 10$.
HarshJ_ohn
HarshJ_ohn Сарын өмнө
How satisfying this video was 👍👍
zekitjr
zekitjr Сарын өмнө
Why does it cost 11k. My 400$ console has a little less specs and costs 10400 dollars cheaper
Orange Julep
Orange Julep Сарын өмнө
apple is shit but all right
Yuyang Duan
Yuyang Duan Сарын өмнө
I have a MacBook Pro and its working very well, the thing I hate about apple is there overpriced Mac Pro and there FUCKING 1000 dollar piece of metal that they call a "sTaNd" idk what is wrong with Tim Cook but he's probably high on drugs
ajittesh balloria
ajittesh balloria Сарын өмнө
No fence u look like apple fan boy . just remember every one cannot afford 11K pc at home. In today's time u need systems that can perform well and should be accessible by majority of the people. Apple was garbage company and will remaing grab age company. They are modern day mafia that takes money out of people pocket just to maintain monopoly in the market. do ur god damm research and before mocking that apple is the best.
Master Mirror Sung
Master Mirror Sung Сарын өмнө
They don't actually have an monopoly in anything, just a high profit margin on their products.
Nigel Anderson
Nigel Anderson Сарын өмнө
but can they run Crysis?
Asher Jones
Asher Jones Сарын өмнө
If only u could get rx 580s for 150$ still😭😭
Jefferton Ahyeeoobee
Jefferton Ahyeeoobee Сарын өмнө
Why the fuck does the base model come with 256gb of storage
shiro!
shiro! Сарын өмнө
Why does the Mac look like a cheese grinder from the front?
Drfrenchieries Dubief
Drfrenchieries Dubief Сарын өмнө
An Apple Mac is not a gaming device so the pc will always have a better screen and better graphics
trmg
trmg Сарын өмнө
Mac isn't a gaming device and it's true, but It's overpriced. With 11k/6k dollars, you can buy an all in one pc which is a big win. And what do you mean by better screen and better graphics, do you have any knowledge about computers dumbass? Better screen and better graphics depends on the monitor they use ( res, hz ) or the graphics settings they set.
Alexander Alvarez
Alexander Alvarez Сарын өмнө
It’s not that it’s a gaming computer, it’s that the Mac is overpriced
GregoryCrimson
GregoryCrimson Сарын өмнө
Mac > Windows
[Dark Mode Bruhify]
[Dark Mode Bruhify] 25 өдрийн өмнө
*_I'M SORRY BUT YOUR OPINION IS WRONG_*
3point7
3point7 Сарын өмнө
Not really
trmg
trmg Сарын өмнө
nay
Baiter
Baiter Сарын өмнө
No
Daniel Lui
Daniel Lui Сарын өмнө
i was today years old when i learned about the word "bupkis"
Fred Slocombe
Fred Slocombe Сарын өмнө
Amazing! What kind of data is worth spending this much on a computer?
potatohead
potatohead Сарын өмнө
It’s apple and they know people are gonna buy it anyway
adem
adem Сарын өмнө
I just dont like Apple for ripping off their customers.
lightless
lightless Сарын өмнө
Apples slogan is "make 90 percent profit or go hit up the gauntlet"
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